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deal or no deal, rolling doesn't fiscal cliff. this is the gridlock in washington. this is your taxes. this is your family. this is your future. visit ireport.cnn.com. share your messages. we'll put it on the air. let us know what you think about all of this. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus severe cold and flu fights your worst flu symptoms, plus that cough. [ sighs ] thanks!... [ male announcer ] you're welcome. >>> deal or no deal. we asked you to weigh in on the fiscal cliff debate. here what happens some of you had to say. listen in in my new year's message to washington, this entire fiscal cliff problem isn't just an isolated incident. it's representative of how partisanship and polarization have taken over congress. i'm 18. i used to be excited for the future. but i don't want to live in a country that doesn't have a successful working legislator. congress, it's time for you to remember what your purpose really is, get back to doing your job. >> resolution for washington is to get out of the middle east, learn to live on a budget like every other am
deal or no deal, rolling doesn't fiscal cliff. this is the gridlock in washington. this is your taxes. this is your family. this is your future. visit ireport.cnn.com. share your messages. we'll put it on the air. let us know what you think about all of this. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus severe cold and flu fights your worst flu symptoms, plus that cough. [ sighs ] thanks!... [ male announcer ] you're welcome. >>> deal or no deal. we asked you to weigh in on the fiscal...
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word of a possible deal to avoid that fiscal cliff. the vice president of the united states, joe biden, he is now inside a room, closed door room, meeting with senate democrats. he's trying to sell the plan. it was just a few moment ago we saw him walk by our own dana bash up on capitol hill, with a lot of other reporters going into the room with the senate majority leader harry reid. watch the tape. >> can you flip around. can you flip around? we're going to get the vice president right now. we're going to get the vice president right now. mr. vice president, do you have a deal? >> happy new year. >> mr. vice president, we're live on cnn. do you have a deal? >> happy new year. >> senator reid, how do you feel? got to love live tv. there you go. >> we do love live tv. dana bash doing an excellent job on capitol hill. the vice president smiling broadly, just saying happy new year. here's what we know so far. the house minority leader nancy pelosi, the senate majority leader, harry reid, they have spoken to the president, they have signe
word of a possible deal to avoid that fiscal cliff. the vice president of the united states, joe biden, he is now inside a room, closed door room, meeting with senate democrats. he's trying to sell the plan. it was just a few moment ago we saw him walk by our own dana bash up on capitol hill, with a lot of other reporters going into the room with the senate majority leader harry reid. watch the tape. >> can you flip around. can you flip around? we're going to get the vice president right...
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with just hours to go a deal emerges to avert the fiscal cliff, but can congress pass the measure in time? president obama says they can, we've got the latest from washington, on what could happen before the new year's day deadline. and wall street ends the year with a rally and healthy gains. s&p strategist sam stovall joins us with where he sees stocks headed in 2013. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! washington lawmakers are getting close to a fiscal cliff deal, but they might not get it done before the midnight deadline tonight. the senate could vote in time, but it's possible the house will wait until tuesday. that means the u.s. could go over the fiscal cliff. on wall street today, investors bought up stocks on high hopes of deal, after president obama said this afternoon a deal is "in sight," and positive comments from republican leaders in the senate. here's how the major averages closed on this last trading day of 2012. the dow surged 166 points, the nasdaq jumped about 60, and the s&p rose almost 24 points. while wall street has already closed the books on 2012, washington
with just hours to go a deal emerges to avert the fiscal cliff, but can congress pass the measure in time? president obama says they can, we've got the latest from washington, on what could happen before the new year's day deadline. and wall street ends the year with a rally and healthy gains. s&p strategist sam stovall joins us with where he sees stocks headed in 2013. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! washington lawmakers are getting close to a fiscal cliff deal, but they might...
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crucial vote in the senate on a deal to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. cnn has learned that a vote will likely happen tonight before midnight. the house will not vote, however, until tomorrow. here's what we know about the deal on the table right now. it includes an increase in tax rates for families making over $450,000 a year. individuals making over $400,000 a year. it will extend the unemployment benefits that ended on december 29th and it will include an increase in the estate deal -- in the estate tax. is this deal better than no deal? joining me now is the former director of the congressional budget office, and former labor secretary robert reich, author of "beyond outrage, what has gone wrong with our economy and our democracy and how to fix it" among many other books. thank you for joining us. >> certainly. >> bob, i want to ask you because i heard you talking to wolf and i was amazed. you were in a conversation with wolf, with grover norquist. grover norquist said he would probably support this deal, giving cover to rop republicans who said the
crucial vote in the senate on a deal to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. cnn has learned that a vote will likely happen tonight before midnight. the house will not vote, however, until tomorrow. here's what we know about the deal on the table right now. it includes an increase in tax rates for families making over $450,000 a year. individuals making over $400,000 a year. it will extend the unemployment benefits that ended on december 29th and it will include an increase in the estate deal --...
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with just hours to go a deal emerges to avert the fiscal cliff, but can congress pass the measure in time? president obama says they can, we've got the latest from washington, on what could happen before the new year's day deadline. and wall street ends the year with a rally and healthy gains. s&p strategist sam stovall joins us with where he sees stocks headed in 2013. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! washington lawmakers are getting close to a fiscal cliff deal, but they might not get it done before the midnight deadline tonight. the senate could vote in time, but it's possible the house will wait until tuesday. that means the u.s. could go over the fiscal cliff. on wall street today, investors bought up stocks on high hopes of deal after president obama said this afternoon a deal is "in sight," and positive comments from republican leaders in the senate. here's how the major averages closed on this last trading day of 2012. the dow surged 166 points, the nasdaq jumped about 60, and the s&p rose almost 24 points. while wall street has already closed the books on 2012, washington
with just hours to go a deal emerges to avert the fiscal cliff, but can congress pass the measure in time? president obama says they can, we've got the latest from washington, on what could happen before the new year's day deadline. and wall street ends the year with a rally and healthy gains. s&p strategist sam stovall joins us with where he sees stocks headed in 2013. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! washington lawmakers are getting close to a fiscal cliff deal, but they might...
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the senate's fiscal cliff deal would kick that can down about two months to march. a lot of federal agencies trying to figure out what's that going to mean down the road? and then there's the continuing budget resolution which uses short-term band aids. the current resolution expires towards the end of march. so, before you think that we've averted any kind of fiscal cliff, we're actually hanging off of it by our fingernails waiting for the house to fix it and you've got all these other deadlines. >> it's no joke. we have gone to the brink on each one of those three things. >> that's the way we do it now. we wait until the absolute last minute to get things done. >> let me give you the glass half full here. we are in -- >> half full of champagne. >> we're in an environment of risk, we're not making it worse type environment. we're doing things to embrace the deficit and the debt. slowly but we're doing it. >> the problem not having a budget really is fundamentally a problem. the government does all sorts of things, passes all sorts of resolutions whether you like th
the senate's fiscal cliff deal would kick that can down about two months to march. a lot of federal agencies trying to figure out what's that going to mean down the road? and then there's the continuing budget resolution which uses short-term band aids. the current resolution expires towards the end of march. so, before you think that we've averted any kind of fiscal cliff, we're actually hanging off of it by our fingernails waiting for the house to fix it and you've got all these other...
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. >> alison, i have no idea whether we'll get a fiscal cliff deal done or not. i do have a pretty good idea as to how we got into this gigantic pickle in the first place. >> now we've passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> it starts when then president george w. bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans, but it's a deal with the devil. the cuts, which are politically expedient, but costly to government expire in ten years time. >> both houses of congress have now passed a package of tax relief that will protect the middle class. >> when it came time for the cuts to expire, the u.s. is just emerging from the worst recession since the great depression. so president obama agreed to extend the tax cuts for two more years in exchange for congress extending federal emergency unemployment benefits. those cuts are expensive. if they're extended by 2020, the bush-era tax cuts will be responsible for more than half the total national debt. democrats insist that taxes go up for the wealthy but stay in place permanently for
. >> alison, i have no idea whether we'll get a fiscal cliff deal done or not. i do have a pretty good idea as to how we got into this gigantic pickle in the first place. >> now we've passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> it starts when then president george w. bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans, but it's a deal with the devil. the cuts, which are politically expedient, but costly to government expire in ten years...
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>> susie: on wall street traders popped open the champagne on hopes a fiscal cliff deal was imminent. big board volume climbed to 730 million shares. six stocks were up for each one that was down. over on the nasdaq volume was more than twice as heavy at 1.5 billion shares. on the sector front, we saw gains of at least 2% in technology, energy and materials related stocks. financials were the strongest group this year, rising over 26%. consumer discretionary stocks advanced over 20% as well. while the defensive health care group added 15%. those banking shares got an added boost today on word that banks could soon reach a $10 billion settlement with u.s. regulators over foreclosure abuses. the biggest winner on word of a potential settlement, bank of america. its shares added a quarter, to $11.60. it was the biggest winner on the dow this year. some positive analyst comments on facebook sent shares higher. b.m.o. capital says it's doubling its price target to $32 a share. it says facebook may benefit from a pick up in ad spending. facebook added $0.70 to $26.60. it looks like apple's
>> susie: on wall street traders popped open the champagne on hopes a fiscal cliff deal was imminent. big board volume climbed to 730 million shares. six stocks were up for each one that was down. over on the nasdaq volume was more than twice as heavy at 1.5 billion shares. on the sector front, we saw gains of at least 2% in technology, energy and materials related stocks. financials were the strongest group this year, rising over 26%. consumer discretionary stocks advanced over 20% as...
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that's how the markets will probably react to the fiscal cliff deal. yes, to be sure, the worst effects have been put off, but only for a while. there's still those spending cuts. they've been kicked down the road by two months. there's the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling, which has to be raised. that's been kicked off a couple of months. and then you've got the appropriations, the whole budget process, which will come back before the spring is over. so time and again, the markets in europe are saying we've seen how difficult it is to do these deals. look at what happened with greece, with bailouts, with sovereign debt crises, with the euro zone. it was only at the very last possible minute that compromise was reached, that the big bargain was done. and if you look at the united states, even at a time of, a moment when really both sides needed to do more than the minimum, the markets will be saying they failed to do so. so, yes, they will be relieved, there won't be any immediate reaction, but the markets are certainly putting the politicians on notice tha
that's how the markets will probably react to the fiscal cliff deal. yes, to be sure, the worst effects have been put off, but only for a while. there's still those spending cuts. they've been kicked down the road by two months. there's the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling, which has to be raised. that's been kicked off a couple of months. and then you've got the appropriations, the whole budget process, which will come back before the spring is over. so time and again, the markets in europe are...
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fiscal cliff. right now, the leaders of the house and senate are sitting down with president obama in a search for an 11th hour deal to prevent severe tax hikes and spending cuts from automatically kicking in with the new year. cnn's chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is getting new details. jess can ka, what are you hearing about that meeting? >> reporter: candy, the president is going to explain or reiterate the position he took on friday, that he would like a plan that extends tax rates for people who make $250,000 and below but raises them for those who make more than that. that it extends unemployment benefits for americans. and if the president, i'm told will say if he does not get an agreement to that plan, he will ask the other leaders what they can agree to, what what they would like instead. if they cannot come up with a proposal that will pass the house and the senate, will ask for a vote on his measure. but that meeting, candy, is still going on. congre congressional leaders
fiscal cliff. right now, the leaders of the house and senate are sitting down with president obama in a search for an 11th hour deal to prevent severe tax hikes and spending cuts from automatically kicking in with the new year. cnn's chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is getting new details. jess can ka, what are you hearing about that meeting? >> reporter: candy, the president is going to explain or reiterate the position he took on friday, that he would like a plan that...
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the senate strikes a deal on the fiscal cliff, but not before we've officially fallen off the cliff. we are off it right now. here is where things stand right now. a bill crafted by vice president joe biden and minority leader mitch mcconnell passed in the senate by a margin of 89-8. happened just after 2:00 in the morning. the republican controlled house has agreed to consider this later this morning. but anyone's guess how this will turn out. if the house votes yes, the measure would generate 600 billion in revenues over the next ten years. how things are sized up overnight. >> i've said all along, our most important priority is protecting middle class families. this legislation does this. >> this shouldn't be the model of how we do things around here. but i think we can sigh we've done some good for the country. >> if it passes the house, here is what the plan means for you and your family. bush era tax cuts would stay in place for individuals earning less than $400,000 a year and couples earning less than $450,000. unemployment benefits for 2 million americans would be extended f
the senate strikes a deal on the fiscal cliff, but not before we've officially fallen off the cliff. we are off it right now. here is where things stand right now. a bill crafted by vice president joe biden and minority leader mitch mcconnell passed in the senate by a margin of 89-8. happened just after 2:00 in the morning. the republican controlled house has agreed to consider this later this morning. but anyone's guess how this will turn out. if the house votes yes, the measure would generate...
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there has been a major snag in the negotiations toward a fiscal cliff deal with fewer than two days remaining on the countdown clock, dana bash is on capitol hill. tell us what the main point of contention is now. >> there are few according to sources in both parties. the biggest one when it comes to the democrats, from their point of view, is the fact that republicans in an offer that they made last night included what is known as chained cpi in laymen's terms and in terms that matter to many americans, it would effectively make social security checks lower each month. >> we learned this from sources earlier. the senate majority leader, harry reid went to the senate floor and talked about the snag. list ton what he said. >> the one thing i do want to mention is that we're not going to have any social security cuts at this stage, that doesn't seem appropriate. we're open to just discussion about entitlement reforms, but we're going to have to take it in a different direction, the present status will not work. we're willing to make concessions as part of a balanced comprehensive agreement. but
there has been a major snag in the negotiations toward a fiscal cliff deal with fewer than two days remaining on the countdown clock, dana bash is on capitol hill. tell us what the main point of contention is now. >> there are few according to sources in both parties. the biggest one when it comes to the democrats, from their point of view, is the fact that republicans in an offer that they made last night included what is known as chained cpi in laymen's terms and in terms that matter to...
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we're going to do this in steps meaning a fiscal cliff deal. the question for the market at this point is how much of a deal will come out of this, will it be a partial going over the cliff, or will it be -- will it be one of the band-aid measures that wall street wasn't hoping for. with one of these sort of half deals or partial deals, what wall street winds up getting is more question marks. not really some -- solid rules of the road that continue getting this uncertainty about where taxes may be. so, you know, we are seeing the dow up right now 47 points. but the dow is off its highs of the session, simply because it doesn't look like it is going to be a full deal as far as investors feel that they think it is going to be more of a band aid measure. >> like a series of mood swings and the american public wants to know where they stand. that's pretty much the bottom line. let me ask, the form bill, another big concern, top congressional leaders say they have reached a deal. but yet to vote on an extension. if congress fails to act, well, an i
we're going to do this in steps meaning a fiscal cliff deal. the question for the market at this point is how much of a deal will come out of this, will it be a partial going over the cliff, or will it be -- will it be one of the band-aid measures that wall street wasn't hoping for. with one of these sort of half deals or partial deals, what wall street winds up getting is more question marks. not really some -- solid rules of the road that continue getting this uncertainty about where taxes...
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. >>> checking our top stories, a fiscal cliff deal has been reached. the senate just approving the teal in a vote of 89-8 just a few hours ago . in a race against the clock, senate leaders found a compromise. taxes will remain the same for middle income americans but they will increase for those individuals making more than $400,000 and for families making more than $450,000. >>> gay marriage is now legal in maryland. same-sex couples have been able to get marriage licenses in the free state for about three weeks but the new law didn't go into effect until the strike of midnight in the new year. dozens of same-sex wedding are scheduled for today including some at city hall in baltimore and a massive wedding event at the black walnut point inn. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton remains in a new york city hospital this morning. but doctors are optimistic that she will make a full recovery. she is being treated for a broad clot they found in her head. it is located in the vein between the brain and skull right behind her right ear. clinton is being t
. >>> checking our top stories, a fiscal cliff deal has been reached. the senate just approving the teal in a vote of 89-8 just a few hours ago . in a race against the clock, senate leaders found a compromise. taxes will remain the same for middle income americans but they will increase for those individuals making more than $400,000 and for families making more than $450,000. >>> gay marriage is now legal in maryland. same-sex couples have been able to get marriage licenses...
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cliff deal today. the world is watching, too. it's because the big tax hikes and spending cuts here could have a chilling effect on the global economy. we want to bring in richard quest from london. richard, we know that folks are watching this. perhaps not the minutia how we're following it in washington and the negotiations process from hour to hour and minute to minute it seems. certainly in the final stages of it this whether or not this is actually going to happen. why does it make such a big difference? >> reporter: it makes a huge difference because the rest of the globe, particularly say for example the european union and the euro zone is barely growing. it's stagnant and was in recession in '12. it could be in recession in '13. if you lop off any growth from the u.s. economy, that will have a ripple affect across the althouthe atlantic. you will feel the ripples go across the pacific to asia and japan and china and to all those countries and across the atlantic to europe. i was talking a few m
cliff deal today. the world is watching, too. it's because the big tax hikes and spending cuts here could have a chilling effect on the global economy. we want to bring in richard quest from london. richard, we know that folks are watching this. perhaps not the minutia how we're following it in washington and the negotiations process from hour to hour and minute to minute it seems. certainly in the final stages of it this whether or not this is actually going to happen. why does it make such a...
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jessica yellin, thanks. >>> and january 1st is the deadline to make a deal on the fiscal cliff. for some states, it's a day that a series of new laws are going to take effect. let me get you clued in here. in california, talking more than 800 new laws, including one requiring apartments and condos to install carbon monoxide detectors. separately, employers will no longer be able to ask job applicants for log ins to social media accounts, such as facebook and twitter. and the increase between 28 cents and 37 cents per hour affects more than 1 million low-income earners. thanks to laws that have lower minimum wage to keep price. and the price of stamps is set to go up? e, again, by a penny, on january 27th, which brings the price of sending first-class mail to 46 cents. >>> well, the senate has also approved a five-year extension of the foreign intelligence surveillance act allowinging the government to eavesdrop on overseas phone calls and e-mails from potential terrorists. they say it's protected us from more attacks like 9/11. others argue the bill could be abused. the bill is
jessica yellin, thanks. >>> and january 1st is the deadline to make a deal on the fiscal cliff. for some states, it's a day that a series of new laws are going to take effect. let me get you clued in here. in california, talking more than 800 new laws, including one requiring apartments and condos to install carbon monoxide detectors. separately, employers will no longer be able to ask job applicants for log ins to social media accounts, such as facebook and twitter. and the increase...
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if no fiscal cliff deal is reached, most everyone's taxes will go up tuesday with deep spending cuts kicking in. earlier i spoke with a democratic and republican strategist. they seemed to echo the sentiment of the voters. >> this is like, when you at the beginning of the year and you're in school at the beginning of the year, you get assigned a big project and you leave it until the last night. when i used to do that, my parents used to punish me. if kids were behaving the way these congress people are, they would be in the time out. if it was the public sector they would be fired. the only solution lies with us, the american people, and with us the voters demanding that they start working together and actually coming up with something. we cannot continue having these spec tackles every few months. it's like making sausage. >> can we talk about the optics of this? there are many saying this is a republican and democratic problem, we're here because republicans won't play ball. >> it's easy for me to say that, i do think that politically, the republicans will suffer more if this does
if no fiscal cliff deal is reached, most everyone's taxes will go up tuesday with deep spending cuts kicking in. earlier i spoke with a democratic and republican strategist. they seemed to echo the sentiment of the voters. >> this is like, when you at the beginning of the year and you're in school at the beginning of the year, you get assigned a big project and you leave it until the last night. when i used to do that, my parents used to punish me. if kids were behaving the way these...
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frantic work under way with just four days left to pass a fiscal cliff deal and lawmakers are meeting again this afternoon to try to avert major tax hikes and spending cuts. the latest on what we can expect from today's efforts. >> the key players will give it one last shot. president obama and congressional leaders will meet this afternoon at the white house in a last-ditch effort to avoid a self-inflicted fiscal calamity. this is the first meeting between the power plays in six weeks. if they can't work out some kind of agreement automatic tax hikes and spending cuts will go into affected new year's day, which will impact most americans and will put the nation back into recession. >> we are coming up against a hard deadline. >> at today's meeting, president obama will push for a stop gap measure, a small deal that will at least prevent tax increases for those earning $250,000 or less. but even that seems unlikely. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> publicly, both sides have ratcheted up rhetoric, pointing the finger. >> john boehner seems to
frantic work under way with just four days left to pass a fiscal cliff deal and lawmakers are meeting again this afternoon to try to avert major tax hikes and spending cuts. the latest on what we can expect from today's efforts. >> the key players will give it one last shot. president obama and congressional leaders will meet this afternoon at the white house in a last-ditch effort to avoid a self-inflicted fiscal calamity. this is the first meeting between the power plays in six weeks....
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cliff deal. as ben said, they are not giving any details, no specifics, they're not going to, but nancy pelosi said it will try to craft some sort of deal to avoid heading off the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>> the outgoing prime minister mario monti said he will contest the general election in february. he will lead a coalition of supporting his reform agenda. his appointment last year as the head of the technocratic government sought to end the financial crisis. former prime minister silvio berlusconi is rounding out his new year with a divorce, pinning his ex-wife almost $4 million per month. he was accused of having relationships with young women. the venezuelan president hugo chavez cents a message of faith to his supporters from his hospital bed. the message said that well- wishers and supporters were helping his recovery following the cancer operation. there is been speculation over whether his health has left him fit to lead the country. >>> a 6-year-old british girl who was abducted by he
cliff deal. as ben said, they are not giving any details, no specifics, they're not going to, but nancy pelosi said it will try to craft some sort of deal to avoid heading off the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>> the outgoing prime minister mario monti said he will contest the general election in february. he will lead a coalition of supporting his reform agenda. his appointment last year as the head of the technocratic government sought to end the financial crisis. former prime minister...
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this is one of the problems that faces the fiscal cliff deal. a filibuster could arise. you and jessica were talking about that. the hope for any deal before january 1st is that somehow minority leader mitch mcconnell could convince his troops, convince the republicans not to block it with a filibuster. each individual senator makes up their own mind, each senator has the right to stage a filibuster. so that's not something he can control entirely. a bigger issue, though, i have to edadmit, when you look at senator mcconnell and why he's so important right now is that he needs to bring some republicans on board this deal for a couple reasons. first, they need those republican votes to get anything through the senate. and then second of all, speaker boehner needs some cover, he needs some way to convince republicans in the house that they should pass this deal. conservatives are putting pressure on all sides and republicans in the house want to be to say conservativings in the senate supported this. i can too for the good of the country even though i don't like it. these
this is one of the problems that faces the fiscal cliff deal. a filibuster could arise. you and jessica were talking about that. the hope for any deal before january 1st is that somehow minority leader mitch mcconnell could convince his troops, convince the republicans not to block it with a filibuster. each individual senator makes up their own mind, each senator has the right to stage a filibuster. so that's not something he can control entirely. a bigger issue, though, i have to edadmit,...
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. >> just three days until the country reaches the so-called fiscal cliff, and the deal could be coming together as soon as tomorrow. richard reeve joins us from the newsroom. what we are hearing is this deal may not cover everything? >> that is right, the temporary payroll tax cut is set to expire, affecting everyone getting a paycheck. we are told senate leaders are trying everything, private conferences, phone call, email trying to hammer out a deal before the deadline. the clock is ticking, just three days left now. >> i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> this weekend, government issued the's are arriving at the capitol signal talks are still going on, but the americans are getting impatient. >> sit down, get in a room, and don't come out until you get this taken care of. >> right now, harry reid and mitch mcconnell are working on a so-called mini deal to prevent a tax increase for roughly 98% of american workers, extending unemployment benefits to nearly 2 million people, preventing cuts to medicare doctors. >> whenever we come up with will be in perfect. >> it comes up with president ob
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cliff deal. as ben said, they are not giving any details, no specifics, they're not going to, but nancy pelosi said it will try to craft some sort of deal to avoid heading off the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>> the outgoing prime minister mario monti said he will contest the general election in february. he will lead a coalition of supporting his reform agenda. his appointment last year as the head of the technocratic government sought to end the financial crisis. former prime minister silvio berlusconi is rounding out his new year with a divorce, pinning his ex-wife almost $4 million per month. he was accused of having relationships with young women. the venezuelan president hugo chavez cents a message of faith to his supporters from his hospital bed. the message said that well- wishers and supporters were helping his recovery following the cancer operation. there is been speculation over whether his health has left him fit to lead the country. >>> a 6-year-old british girl who was abducted by he
cliff deal. as ben said, they are not giving any details, no specifics, they're not going to, but nancy pelosi said it will try to craft some sort of deal to avoid heading off the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>> the outgoing prime minister mario monti said he will contest the general election in february. he will lead a coalition of supporting his reform agenda. his appointment last year as the head of the technocratic government sought to end the financial crisis. former prime minister...
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it is like, my god, the fiscal cliff, the fiscal cliff. we'll deal with it in two months. jessica yellin, so much more to talk to you about. we'll check in later, but thanks so much. >>> as we wait for republicans and democrats to come to the microphones, one democrat just left the meeting, he's going to be joining us next. sten to thesy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. the better i drive, the more i save. i wish our company had something this cool. you're not filming this, are you? aw! camera shy. snapshot from progressive. test-drive snapshot before you switch. visit progressive.com today. to volunteer to help those in need. when a twinge of back pain surprises him. morning starts in high spirits, but there's a growing pain in his lower back. as lines grow longer, his pain continues to linger. but after a long day of helping others, he gets some helpful advice. just two aleve have the strength to keep back pain away all day. today,
it is like, my god, the fiscal cliff, the fiscal cliff. we'll deal with it in two months. jessica yellin, so much more to talk to you about. we'll check in later, but thanks so much. >>> as we wait for republicans and democrats to come to the microphones, one democrat just left the meeting, he's going to be joining us next. sten to thesy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i...
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cliff deal. they passed it early this morning and we're going to talk more about that with neil from role call. he is here with the latest on that. thank you for coming in and talking with us. the senate has approved this and now it goes to the house at some point today. what are the odds that we'll be done with this and what are the odds this is good luck to keep going and keep going and keep going? >> what we saw last night as the senate unveiled its plan and voted on the plan in the wee hours of this morning, we've all lost track of time, we were in the capitol when this was going on, the house leadership came out with a statement that said they would consider the legislation. >> that doesn't sound good. >> they also said they were open to the possibility of promptly amending the legislation which would kick it back to the senate to deal with by thursday. and so we may not be out of the woods yet in terms of how this fiscal cliff deal came together and in any event we still haven't seen congre
cliff deal. they passed it early this morning and we're going to talk more about that with neil from role call. he is here with the latest on that. thank you for coming in and talking with us. the senate has approved this and now it goes to the house at some point today. what are the odds that we'll be done with this and what are the odds this is good luck to keep going and keep going and keep going? >> what we saw last night as the senate unveiled its plan and voted on the plan in the...
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we'll ask him why he says a fiscal cliff deal won't help the country. stand by. ♪ [ slap! ] [ male announcer ] your favorite foods fighting you? fight back fast with tums. calcium-rich tums starts working so fast you'll forget you had heartburn. ♪ tum tum tum tum tums so, the 5.3-liter v8 silverado can tow up to 9,600 pounds? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. now through january 2nd, no monthly payments until spring for qualified buyers. get the silverado for 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $1,000 holiday bonus cash. plus trade up for an additional $1,000 trade-in allowance. >>> the united states is going over the fiscal cliff. at least for a short while. the house of representatives deciding in just a little while ago it will not vote and a deal tonight. earlier, president obama sounded slightly optimistic. let's listen to this. >> they are close but they're not there yet. and one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there's even one second left before you
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a trip over the fiscal cliff. we have already gone over. now a deal is in the works. will it have the same support in the house it got in the senate? oh! progress-oh! [ female announcer ] with 40 delicious progresso soups at 100 calories or less, there are plenty of reasons people are saying "progress-oh!" share your progress-oh! story on facebook. but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. the better i drive, the more i save. i wish our company had something this cool. you're not filming this, are you? aw! camera shy. snapshot from progressive. test-drive snapshot before you switch. visit progressive.com today. >>> check the top stories. a royal drilling unit has run aground on an uninhabted island. crews had been trying to get the rig to seattle. it went adrift off the south alaskan coast. waves as high as 28 feet made the recovery treacherous. the coast guard says there's no visible she
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shy of the deadline the senate passed a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> that goes to the house for a vote. doug mcelway is live with what it all means. you have been up all night so have i, what do we have? >> little more than 2 hours after the deadline passed they passed a stopgap fiscal cliff bill that spares the vast majority of americans tax increases. it passed with broad bipartisan support the final vote was 89 yai's 8 nay's. they pent went to the floor to describe a flawed bill one of the best they could craft given the different priorities over the two parties for the last couple years. >> shouldn't be a model of how we do things but i think we can say we have done some good for the country. we have done some good for the country. we have taken care of the revenue side of this debate. >>> working through the night we have reached a deal with sen more mcconnell. i have said all along the most important priority was to pa protect the middle class families. >> it raises tax rates on incomes over 400,000 for individuals 450,000 for couples. it blocks the spending cuts for two m
shy of the deadline the senate passed a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> that goes to the house for a vote. doug mcelway is live with what it all means. you have been up all night so have i, what do we have? >> little more than 2 hours after the deadline passed they passed a stopgap fiscal cliff bill that spares the vast majority of americans tax increases. it passed with broad bipartisan support the final vote was 89 yai's 8 nay's. they pent went to the floor to describe a flawed...
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will a last-minute fiscal cliff deal get done? and if it does what will it look like. >>> we have a deal. we may still get hit with an automatic tax hike. how much will that cost you? in time for the new year, a new snowstorm headed to the northeast. we'll let you know how bad this will get. and the yore in review, up with of the most unique and appalling takes on the year in review. good morning to you all. welcome to weekends with alex witt. no alex today. taking a much deserved weekend off. i'm t.j. holmes, good to be with you. new this morning, president obama outlining his course of action if we all go off the cliff. >> if an agreement isn't reached on time, then i'll urge the senate to hold an up-or-down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job and lays the ground work for more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> the president is optimistic that a deal can be reached midnight on new year's eve. listen to senate m
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you think both sides have decided it's in their political interest to go over the fiscal cliff. is that right? >> yeah, you never want to rule a deal off the table because we have lived through so many rounds that have ended in deals in the last couple years, but in this case, i think democrats think they get a better deal on policy by going over the cliff. that they end up getting more in taxes with less in spending cuts than they would get if they had to cut a deal right now. and republicans have persuaded themselves not completely convincingly in my view, but they have persuaded themselves it's much better to accept slightly higher taxes that they themselves don't have to vote for directly, even though they'll still be casting a vote for new tax rates, they'll be able to say, well, taxes have already gone up and we're just voting to cut them. so that's sort of how, at least, i think both sides are persuading themselves to sort of tip-toe off the cliff. >> and charles, i know you think republicans have more to lose here, but does either side get a boost from this? >> i don't t
you think both sides have decided it's in their political interest to go over the fiscal cliff. is that right? >> yeah, you never want to rule a deal off the table because we have lived through so many rounds that have ended in deals in the last couple years, but in this case, i think democrats think they get a better deal on policy by going over the cliff. that they end up getting more in taxes with less in spending cuts than they would get if they had to cut a deal right now. and...
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rick: the senate reaching a deal overnight to avert the fiscal cliff. so who are the winners and who are the losers? a fair and balanced debate on that. >> it's not something that any of us would say, oh, i love it. i don't love it, but i think it is a very good job of negotiating where there are some wins and some losses. new prilosec otc wildberry is the same frequent heartburn treatment as plosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [ male announcer one pill each morning. 2hours. zero heartburn. satisfaion guaranteed or your money back. heather: welcome back and happy new year. thousands of people welcoming in 2013 in key west, florida, with the drop of a shoe. take a look at this. have you heard about this tradition? the annual drag queen drop, yea
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now, there are other things they can do if there is no fiscal cliff deal. namely hurricane sandy supplemental might need work, also work on the farm bill, also overdue. there are other things, plenty of business to work open, but the truth is they're coming back because of the fiscal cliff, in case there might be a deal, and also to show that they're working until the last minute. >> lisa, i love you, but you just depress me. >> oh, no! >> i know. >> have faith. have faith. honestly, it is not -- these guys are best at the last minute. i think we're far from the last minute, though it feels that way to a lot of people. especially the unemployed losing their benefits tomorrow. it is a serious matter. they're best at the last minute and they're not there yet. >> we shall see. >> try to smile. >> i'll try. i'm sure many americans are trying as well. >>> we talked about the effect of hitting the fiscal cliff on american taxpayers. what about businesss? what about businesses? rick newman of u.s. news and world reports tells us they're cutting back already. >> to
now, there are other things they can do if there is no fiscal cliff deal. namely hurricane sandy supplemental might need work, also work on the farm bill, also overdue. there are other things, plenty of business to work open, but the truth is they're coming back because of the fiscal cliff, in case there might be a deal, and also to show that they're working until the last minute. >> lisa, i love you, but you just depress me. >> oh, no! >> i know. >> have faith. have...
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vote is expected any minute now on fiscal cliff deal. we'll bring you the very latest from washington. >> plus the new state law on the books tomorrow. talk about some of them tonight but we look at one designed to better protect your social media account. those stories and more tonight on 7 news at 11:00 over on channel 7. >>> larry hear and it was a pink slip day in the nfl wasn't it. >> a lot of thanks for the time, security will escort you out. unfortunately the new year will begin with a lot of teams looking for new coaches. kind of black monday carnage for 7 head coaches today. most of the moves pretty much expected this one was surprising. chicago bears parting way was love smichlt he led the fwirs superbowl in 2006 but the spwrairs only made the play offs in 3 of his nine years with the team. some was rebuilding so understood but they started the season this year 7 and 1. finished 10 and 6 and missed the play off. that was fatal. after 14 years with the eagle andy reid fired today. no surprise. winnin winningest coach in team his
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what are we looking at on wednesday when wall street opens again, if we have no fiscal cliff deal? >> i talked to independent economist, mark zandi, he said if there is no deal on wednesday, expect a slow bleed in financial markets, maybe 50 to 100 points lost on the dow per day for a couple of weeks, if in mid-january it becomes clear that even going over the cliff hasn't made a deal more likely, expect a huge selloff, perhaps 800 points rivalling what happened when the first t.a.r.p. bill went down in the fall of 2008 during the financial crisis, kate. >> john harwood, thanks so much. and there will be much more on all of this tonight on a live special report on cnbc. it's titled "america's economy held hostage," that's at 8:00 eastern time. >>> overseas, this has been a very deadly weekend in syria, where the civil war has been going on now for 21 months, as fighting raged in a number of cities, activist groups say more than 50 people were killed today and yesterday was far worse, with almost 400 deaths reported. more than 45,000 people have died since the war began. and today,
what are we looking at on wednesday when wall street opens again, if we have no fiscal cliff deal? >> i talked to independent economist, mark zandi, he said if there is no deal on wednesday, expect a slow bleed in financial markets, maybe 50 to 100 points lost on the dow per day for a couple of weeks, if in mid-january it becomes clear that even going over the cliff hasn't made a deal more likely, expect a huge selloff, perhaps 800 points rivalling what happened when the first t.a.r.p....
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the top headline on politico is fiscal cliff deal increasingly unlikely. i think a lot of people are feeling that pessimism right now. what are you hearing? >> well, i think what you've got here, alena, is a nash equilibrium to borrow from economic theory and game theory. each of the players believe they are pursuing their optimal strategies given the strategies of the other players and there's no reason to change it. i think as observers of this, the american public, you can say there's a real reason to change it. in terms of the politicians, i think they're pursuing their best strategy right now and that leads us toward that cliff. unless something changes in the next couple of days, most folks now believe that any fix will happen after january 1st. >> the house gop leadership put out a statement yesterday. i want to read part of it for you. it says in part, the house has acted on two bills which collectively would avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate. if the senate will not approve, and send them to the presid
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cliff deal. no deal will mean spending cuts and tax increases for millions of americans with fears that it could trigger another recession. ed henry has latest. >> happy new year. >> the house and senate back to work for a rare sunday session trying to figure out the fiscal cliff negotiations. a lot of talk, very few solutions so far. >> our membership is frustrated as the american people we're sworn to serve. >> none. votes that we'll be casting today have anything to do with these deadlines that we face in slightly more than 24 hours. we're here. we're ready. >> reporter: president obama sitting down for his first sunday morning talk show interview in over three years told nbc it is time to lawmakers to nail down a deal o. >> we don't yet see an agreement and now the pressure is on congress to produce. >> reporter: republicans and democrats going back and forth behind closed doors working through night trying to avoid some of the most painful tax hikes and spending cuts in our nation's history.
cliff deal. no deal will mean spending cuts and tax increases for millions of americans with fears that it could trigger another recession. ed henry has latest. >> happy new year. >> the house and senate back to work for a rare sunday session trying to figure out the fiscal cliff negotiations. a lot of talk, very few solutions so far. >> our membership is frustrated as the american people we're sworn to serve. >> none. votes that we'll be casting today have anything to...
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congressional leaders scrambling to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff before tuesday's deadline. >>> milk, get this, milk $7 a gallon? it could happen if congress doesn't pass a new farm bill. >>> and then smartphone apps. we'll tell you the best buys of 2012. i know. i'm will, and this is the nokia lumia 920 from at&t. it's got live tiles so all my stuff's always right there in real-time. it's like the ultimate personal assistant. but i'm me, and me needs handlers. so i hired todd to handle it for me. todd, gimme that hollywood news! what's happening on twitter? you're trending! yes! you can't have a todd, but you can have your own personal assistant. i guess you could call it todd. [ male announcer ] the new nokia lumia 920 with live tiles that deliver what you want in real time. only from at&t. rethink possible. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with business. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i could get used to thi
congressional leaders scrambling to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff before tuesday's deadline. >>> milk, get this, milk $7 a gallon? it could happen if congress doesn't pass a new farm bill. >>> and then smartphone apps. we'll tell you the best buys of 2012. i know. i'm will, and this is the nokia lumia 920 from at&t. it's got live tiles so all my stuff's always right there in real-time. it's like the ultimate personal assistant. but i'm me, and me needs handlers....
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fiscal cliff deal puts kibosh on pay raises. it hasn't passed house so technically it is still on the table. >>> if the house passes the senate fiscal cliff bill we avoid going over the dairy cliff. this will prevent from milk prices doubling to nearly eight bucks a gallon the senate version of the bill extends the farm bill for another year, keeping current dairy programs in place. farmers allow people to focus on giving customers what they need. >> we have become more innovative. we're into the marketplace we have new products. we have lactose-free milk, low-fat, low sugar flavored milks. that is exactly what you're going to do now. what do you want a as consumer. we'll take care of you. juliet: house speaker john boehner has pushed back voting a new five-year farm bill for months saying it doesn't have the support it needs to pass. >>> brian, what's going on over there, buddy? brian: well, i'll trying to help a lot of american people. are you physicianed and faded out today because of wild new year's eve. do you feel you're h
fiscal cliff deal puts kibosh on pay raises. it hasn't passed house so technically it is still on the table. >>> if the house passes the senate fiscal cliff bill we avoid going over the dairy cliff. this will prevent from milk prices doubling to nearly eight bucks a gallon the senate version of the bill extends the farm bill for another year, keeping current dairy programs in place. farmers allow people to focus on giving customers what they need. >> we have become more...
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the fiscal cliff. 48% of those polled say a deal is not likely. that optimism is waning, though when the poll was done earlier this month, 59% said a deal was likely. >>> former braves great andruw jones is free on a $2,500 bond this morning after being arrested outside of atlanta. he was arrested on a battery charge. the gwinnett county detention center said there was a domestic dispute between he and his life. >>> the number of extremely obese preschoolers has dropped slightly over the last decade, according to the centerses for disease control and prevention. researchers called the decline modest but say it's encouraging. the cdc adds that part of the decrease could be attributed to awareness campaigns that encourage physical activity and healthy eating. >>> before heading back to d.c. to try to avoid heading off the fiscal cliff, president obama and the first lady kept up a christmas tradition. they visited marines at a base in hawaii thanking them for their service. mrs. obama and their daughters, by the way, won't cut short their vacation. t
the fiscal cliff. 48% of those polled say a deal is not likely. that optimism is waning, though when the poll was done earlier this month, 59% said a deal was likely. >>> former braves great andruw jones is free on a $2,500 bond this morning after being arrested outside of atlanta. he was arrested on a battery charge. the gwinnett county detention center said there was a domestic dispute between he and his life. >>> the number of extremely obese preschoolers has dropped...
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with just hours to go a deal emerges to avert the fiscal cliff, but can congress pass the measure in time? president obama says they can, we've got the latest from washington, on what could happen before the new year's day deadline. and wall street ends the year with a rally and healthy gains. s&p strategist sam stovall joins us with where he sees stocks headed in 2013. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! washington lawmakers are getting close to a fiscal cliff deal, but they might not get it done before the midnight deadline tonight. the senate could vote in time, but it's possible the house will wait until tuesday. that means the u.s. could go over the fiscal cliff.
with just hours to go a deal emerges to avert the fiscal cliff, but can congress pass the measure in time? president obama says they can, we've got the latest from washington, on what could happen before the new year's day deadline. and wall street ends the year with a rally and healthy gains. s&p strategist sam stovall joins us with where he sees stocks headed in 2013. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! washington lawmakers are getting close to a fiscal cliff deal, but they might...
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lawmaker has a long time to avoid the fiscal cliff. now only four days left and no deal in sight. that could change today, when president obama holds a meeting with all four congressional leader at the white house. we're not saying you should bet on it. let's bring in ron brownstein for "the national journal." >> good morning. >> good morning. we're talking about this whole idea of a fiscal cliff was absolutely not supposed to happen. >> this was a machine that the two sides built to give guy them more will power to do what they didn't want to do to begin with. which is compromise. they could not reach a deal to destabilize the federal government's long-term finances so they built this to put more pressure on themselves to reach a deal now. and even this does not seem to be enough to do it, to force them to make the difficult concessions that are required for the two sides to come together this is indignant of a broader problem we face of a red coalition and blue coalition that reflect very different visions of american and show less and less cooperation. we are looking at a divid
lawmaker has a long time to avoid the fiscal cliff. now only four days left and no deal in sight. that could change today, when president obama holds a meeting with all four congressional leader at the white house. we're not saying you should bet on it. let's bring in ron brownstein for "the national journal." >> good morning. >> good morning. we're talking about this whole idea of a fiscal cliff was absolutely not supposed to happen. >> this was a machine that the...
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we can forget all that stuff, and we'll know if there's a deal on the fiscal cliff or not and what either outcome means for you and your money. we'll talk to sheila bair, former fdic chairwoman. and texas congressman lloyd daggett. so much to talk about tomorrow. i certainly hope a deal has been done. >> nice to work with you. >> are you going to go to times square? >> i'm going to run the park. 2013 starts with a run. i conned my wife into it as well. she'll join me. >> happy new year to you. >> cnn newsroom with suzanne malveaux begins now. >>> happy new year. stories we're watching now. hours by hour, inch by inch, the nation sliding closer to the fiscal cliff. we'll have more on this morning's negotiations and what we'll lose if those talks fail. and workers in some states may see a pay raise but may not notice much of a difference. >>> guns are flying off the shelves after fears of a ban on assault rifles following the sandy hook massacre. we're live at the white house with the latest details. plus this. >> reporter: i'm alina cho in times square, where just hours from now new york w
we can forget all that stuff, and we'll know if there's a deal on the fiscal cliff or not and what either outcome means for you and your money. we'll talk to sheila bair, former fdic chairwoman. and texas congressman lloyd daggett. so much to talk about tomorrow. i certainly hope a deal has been done. >> nice to work with you. >> are you going to go to times square? >> i'm going to run the park. 2013 starts with a run. i conned my wife into it as well. she'll join me. >>...
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how are they dealing or how are they responding to the fiscal cliff talks? >> not well. i mean, it really depends on who you talk to. so many people range from confusion as to what is happening, anger, and some people don't want to deal with it. fiscal cliff, i'll think about that later. i'll think about that in 2013. now is the time to at least be aware of what you may be facing. also for your tax, for example, tax preparers, any cpa's that are out there, they're in sort of a wait and see mode at this time. they can't do a lot until they know what they're dealing with. and, in fact, what congress does and makes its move. so if you're looking forward to having that tax refund on time, if that's money that you look forward to every single year, you might want to plan for something different because there could be delays on the scene. it just depends on what happens. everybody is waiting to see what congress does before they can go through their process. >> heather: hopefully they will do something. thank you. carolyn castleberry. we appreciate you joining us. good friend
how are they dealing or how are they responding to the fiscal cliff talks? >> not well. i mean, it really depends on who you talk to. so many people range from confusion as to what is happening, anger, and some people don't want to deal with it. fiscal cliff, i'll think about that later. i'll think about that in 2013. now is the time to at least be aware of what you may be facing. also for your tax, for example, tax preparers, any cpa's that are out there, they're in sort of a wait and...